Daniel 11

(WIKIPEDIA)

     "There are some who view Daniel's vision describing events that occurred in the 3rd and 2nd centuries BC concerning the struggle between the Ptolemies (the king of the south, cf 11:7-8) and the Seleucids (the king of the north) for the control of Judea, in which the Seleucids were eventually victorious. Daniel 11:21-35 is devoted to the Seleucid king Antiochus Epiphanes (the ruler of the Jews from 175-164 BCE), his rise to power, wars against Egypt, and his subsequent actions against Jerusalem, the Temple and the Jewish people. Daniel 11:3-39 is considered very accurate.    All major conflicts are mentioned, and the Sixth Syrian War is described in great detail."

     "However, Daniel 11:2,40-45 are considered non-historical by most scholars, who generally agree that the vaticinia ex eventu cease at Daniel 11:39 and that the remaining verses are genuine predictions, and do not accurately describe the events of the time.  After describing the "desecration of the Temple (11:31) and the Maccabean revolt (11:32-35), the author predicts another attack from Egypt in which Antiochus will be victorious and capture the entire territory along with Libya and Ethiopia (11:40-43)  There is however no historical evidence for this.  Instead, Antiochus went to Armenia, Babylonia, and Susa.   It also claims that Antiochus will die after pitching his tents "between the seas (understood to be the Mediterranean) and the glorious mountain (understood to be Mount Zion)" after conquering Egypt, Libya and Ethiopia (v.45). Antiochus died in Elam near Persia in Mesopotamia, not in Judea. Further, Daniel 11:45-12:3 suggests a resurrection of the dead, but this event is not recorded shortly after Antiochus's death. This resurrection was likely metaphorical. Some Christian scholars, however, argue that v. 11:40-45 refer to Augustus Caesar, Herod, or to an antichrist yet to come."

vaticinia ex eventu 

      According to critics of paranormal  beliefs, postdiction (or post-shadowing, retroactive clairvoyance, or prediction after the fact) is an effect of hindsight bias that explains claimed predictions of significant events, such as plane crashes and natural disasters.   In religious contexts it is frequently referred to by the Latin term vaticinium ex eventu, or foretelling after the event. Through this term, critics point out the fact that many biblical prophecies (and similar prophecies in other religions) that may appear to have come true were in fact written after the events supposedly predicted, or that their text or interpretation were modified after the event to fit the facts as they occurred.

     Skeptics of premonition use these terms in response to claims made by psychics, astrologers and other paranormalists to have predicted an event, when the original prediction was vague, catch-all, or otherwise non-obvious.

       Most predictions from such figures as Nostradamus and James Van Praagh are written with such seemingly deliberate vagueness and ambiguity as to make interpretation nearly impossible before the event, rendering them useless as predictive tools. After the event has occurred, however, details are shoehorned into the prediction by the psychics or their supporters using selective thinking — emphasize the "hits", ignore the "misses" — in order to lend credence to the prophecy and give the impression of an accurate "prediction". Inaccurate predictions are omitted.

     Supporters sometimes contend that the problem lies not with the wording of the prediction, but with the interpretation — an argument sometimes used by supporters of religious texts. This argument may lead to the question: "What is the point of a prediction that cannot be interpreted correctly before the event?" However, the argument is not that the prediction could not have been interpreted correctly prior to the event, but simply that it was not in the case in question, thus the question is working from a false premise.. Of course, any "prediction" that is so vague as to not be correctly interpreted before the event it allegedly "predicted" is functionally equivalent to no prediction at all." ---(WIKIPEDIA- vaticinia ex eventu)

     NOTE by Dr. Robert F. Holt, MD --- this may be true of some other Bible prophecies, and of current paranormal and psychic prophecies, but it is NOT TRUE of ESSENE PROPHECIES.  The ESSENES usually left their "mistakes" intact, so that later ESSENES could learn from them, and make proper adjustments in later prophecies.   By this transition of accurate historical facts to failed predictions that occurs after Daniel 11:39 we can tell when the later failed predictions were made, and who made them!

     Daniel 11:40 "And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come at him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over." --- must have been written by a would-be prophet in the early days of the Maccabean revolt, or about 167 BC. However, Daniel chapter 12 was written not by this same "prophet" of the end of Daniel 11, but by the Essenes in the first century AD.  The reason I know this to be true is that it contains the "MILLENNIAL WEEK PROPHECY", a prophecy which was developed during the time (29 - 33 AD) when Jesus Christ was the Essene "Messiah".     

Daniel 12

   1 "And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of they people:-

     This particular "Michael" appears by name 5 times in Scripture, twice in Daniel 10, called both times "a prince".  Once in Daniel 12, also called "a prince".  Once in Jude, called an "archangel", and once in Revelation 12:7 as the leader of a group of angels fighting against "the dragon", also called the Devil, and Satan. 

      Revelation 12:7 "And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon fought and his angels,  8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.  9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which decieveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."

       1b "and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book."

      Here we are faced with a problem, because we cannot tell if the author of this text is talking about the beginning of the world  and the creation of Adam and Eve, or just before the end of the world, with "a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time."  The problem is complicated by the existence of Revelation 12:7-9, and the Christian tradition that the serpent in the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil was the Devil, or Satan, cast out of heaven by Michael the archangel.

      Instantly, however, in part b of verse one, we're in a "time of trouble", perhaps that which occurred in the time of Antiochus Epiphanes, the main subject of Daniel 7:9 through Daniel 11:45.

      Then, a split second later, still in the same verse, "thy people", assumed of course to be the Jews, are being delivered -- but only those written in some sort of book.  Those with an eye for such details may remember that "books" were mentioned in the "Judgment Scene" of Daniel 7:9-10, in which the "Ancient of Days" did sit (verse 9) and "the books were opened." (verse 10, last part).

     This, it appears, is much more than just a "deliverance" of those still alive after this "great time of trouble," but those who have died also, perhaps the very first clear reference to a "resurrection of the dead" in the Bible!

     2 "And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt."

      Now we seem to be very much in the subject matter we discussed on our previous page, the subject of a resurrection of the dead, assumed by Christians to occur at the Second Coming of Christ, either seen by everyone at once (Seventh-day Adventists, or in a "Secret Rapture" (Pentecostals and many others).

       3 "And they that be wise (remember now, Daniel, supposedly the author of this verse, was 10 times wiser than the other wise men of Babylon -- Daniel 1:20) shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; (perhaps showing the preference of Essenes for "light" over "darkness) and they who turn many to righteousness (another Essene preference and characteristic)  as the stars for ever and ever." (the Essenes were astrologers, interested in the stars, as was Daniel).   

      4 "But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the

time of the end:

(this is the first time the "end" is mentioned in this chapter)

5 "Then I Daniel looked, and behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river , and the other on that side of the bank of the river."

      6 "And one said to the man clothed in linen (Essenes were famous for their white linen garments), which was upon the waters of the river (walking on water),  How long shall it be to the

end of these wonders?

(this is the second time the word "end" is mentioned)

  7 "And I heard the man clothed in linen (an Essene), which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it should be for 

a time, times, and an half;

(making now "a time" equal to a year, then we have 3 1/2 years, exactly the time period that Jesus "reigned" as a Essene Messiah at Qumran)

   and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people,--

(Jesus "scattered the power of the holy people" by beginning the cult of Christianity, which replaced Essenism and took over the Western World, replacing the Pagan Roman Empire)

 all these things

shall be finished."

(this is the third time something meaning "the end" is mentioned)

(3 1/2 years is 1260 days, which when converted to years with the 1 day = 1 years formula is 1260 years, the approximate length of Papal Rome's ascendency before Protestantism took over with its REFORMATION) 

     8 "And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be 

the end of these things? 

(this is the fourth time the "end" is mentioned in this chapter)

(What Daniel could not "understand" in verse 8 is that the Essenes are using this chapter to present their MILLENNIAL WEEK prophecy)

  9 "And he said, Go thy way Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till 

the time of the end. 

(this is the fifth time the "end" is mentioned in this chapter)

    (We are now in the SIXTH of SEVEN "Millennial Days" in the time period -- 1000 AD to 2000 AD, in which the Millerites- SDAs and later the Pentecostals and others made their "End of the World" predictions)

       10 "Many shall be purified, and made white (as in Ellen G. White), and tried; --"

"This is an apt description of that group of Millerites who, under Ellen G. White's instructions, became Seventh-day Adventists.  Obsessed with "Perfection" and dedicated to "Good Works", they turned their back on what Ellen White called "nominal Christianity" on good days, and the "wicked world" on bad days, and became strict Sabbath-keepers and "Health Reformers".      They were in effect "Latter-day Essenes." This lasted until under the influence of Dr. E.J. Waggoner and A.T. Jones they rediscovered Paul's "Gospel" in Galatians.  In 1888, after 44 years.

      10b "--but the wicked shall do wickedly:-- 

    In Ellen White's account of her first notable vision, she prophesied that this early obsession with following the Essene Jesus would not last, and that many Adventists would tire of this "narrow path" and rejoin the wicked world (described in exactly the terminology of Daniel 12:10b. "Early Writings" page 14-15 "If they kept their eyes fixed on Jesus, who was just before them, leading them to the city (Qumran and Essenism) they were safe.--But soon some grew weary, and said that the city was a great way off, and they expected to have entered it before.  ---- Others rashly denied the light behind them and said it was not God that had led them out so far. (That would be as prophecy became history --- E.J. Waggoner and A.T. Jones). "The light behind them (described in Daniel 12:10a as "to be purified, made white, and tried--") went out, leaving their feet in perfect darkness, and they stumbled and lost sight of the mark and of Jesus, and fell off the path down into the dark and wicked world below."

      10c "--and none of the wicked shall understand."

    The idea of being judged perfect because someone else has achieved "perfection" "Righteousness by Faith" is infinitely more attractive to us as human beings than the idea of struggling to reach goals that are neither easy for us to obtain, nor even attractive to us.  So Paul's "Gospel" designed for Gentiles, not Jews (as in Galatians) holds out the seductive, but basically dishonest hope that the Life of Jesus Christ, coupled with his crucifixion, death, and resurrection from the dead, makes "Righteousness by Good Works" derogatively titled "Legalism", no longer necessary.   Indeed counter-productive.   Without a belief in the "Trinity", that Jesus was and is actually "God", none of this works, but is indeed laughable.   Seen as the delusion it really is!   Not able to understand this, after the 1950s, Adventists became "Trinitarians" so they could be wicked, like other Christians depending not on "Good Works" but on "Righteousness by Faith".   Faith in what?   Faith that Jesus by living a righteous life, had satisfied God, and that therefore Adventists no longer needed to worry about the certainty of their Salvation.

Pastor- Evangelist Charles Wheeling

Life-long researcher of the Book of Daniel

Charles Wheeling's "Holy Grail" found in Rev. 12:10

      Meanwhile, a new generation of "Adventists" (Pentecostals and others who believe Christ will come again) began promoting a new view of the "Second Coming of Christ".  The only requirement was to believe that Christ has saved us from the results of our sins, and when the "Secret Rapture" occurs, that we, the Christians "will be taken" (as bodiless spirit entities) to meet him in the clouds, while the others (Jews and other non-Christians) who mistakenly rely on being judged by their works, -- will be left behind!

      11 "And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be

a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

     12 "Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the

thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

On page 173 of her book "Jesus and the Riddle of the Dead Sea Scrolls" (Picture on Left - Harpur-San Francisco - 1992) Dr. Barbara Thiering PhD explains these two time periods, 1290 days and 1335 days as time adjustments related to the three years the temple had been defiled by Antiochus Epiphanes. "The main one was a difference of 3 1/2 years, in both a solar and lunisolar version (in Essene calendars).  The variation was established in 165-164 BC, and is one of the subjects of the book of Daniel (9:27, 12:11-12.) There had been no feasts, and so "no time", for the religious feasts were a way of making time,"

 Those who want a longer, more complete explanation of the 1290 days

Those who want a longer, more complete explanation of the 1335 days

      13 "But go thy way till

the end be:

(this is the sixth time the "end" is mentioned in this chapter)

     13b "--for thou shalt REST, and stand in thy lot at

the end of the days." 

(this is the seventh time the "end" is mentioned in this chapter, and it is mentioned in connected with REST, and Judgment!)

NOTE BY DR. ROBERT HOLT, md -- Finding hidden representations of the Essene "Millennial Week" has become sort of a specialty of mine.   The one in Daniel 12 was one of the first I found.  A much clearer depiction is found as "Letters to the Seven Churches of Asia" in Revelation 2:1 to 3:22.  Another pretty impress- ive depiction is in the 8 parables of Jesus in Matthew 13:18-52. (the first "sower" is Adam - 4000 BC, the second "sower" is Noah -3000 BC. Abraham sows the mustard seed in 2000 BC, the woman with the leaven 1000 BC is Jezebel. The treasure in the field  is Essene.

Those who will now agree with me that Essenes have pretty well "edited" Daniel can now make the following adjustments:

Daniel 11: 40 - 45 are not unfulfilled prophecies but instead more vaticinia ex eventu, but for later rulers between Antiochus Epiphanes and the Essenes of Jesus era.

Daniel 11:40 "And at the time of the end shall the king of the south (Mark Anthony, with Cleopatra) push at him (Octavian, later called Caesar Augustus): and the king of the north (now Rome, not the Seleucids) shall come at him (Mark Anthony) like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over."

    41 "And he (Caesar Augustus) shall enter also into the glorious land (Judea, by his proxy, Herod the Great), and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom (Herod's home), and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon."

     42 "He (Caesar Augustus) shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: the land of Egypt shall not escape.  43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps (as slaves)."

      44 "But tidings  out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many. 45 And he shall plant the tabernacle of his palace (Pontius Pilate?) between the seas (Mediterranean and Dead Seas) in the glorious holy mountain; (Jerusalem with Herod's temple); yet he shall come to his end (a future defeat of Rome by God and the Essene Messiah), and none shall help him (because God has brought about a restoration).

      Daniel 12:1 is, in this view, actually a continuation of this expected restoration, in which Michael, leading an army of Essene warriors, defeats the Romans.  "and at that time thy people shall be delivered" -- from Rome and Roman domination. Verse 2 and 3 describe the divine army of angels and resurrected Jewish warriors from other ages that will  bring about this divine deliverance.

     Since none of this was happening as prophesied, with verse 4 Jesus and his Essene script-writers use the rest of the chapter to describe their MILLENNIAL WEEK PROPHECY.

A Hidden Noah in Daniel 12

     Since Adam is presented as the first "Sower" in Matthew 13, Noah as the second "Sower", and Abraham as the sower of the mustard seed, we should search for these three in Daniel 12.

     They are "hidden" as the three at the river, the river being the Flood.

    Daniel 12:5 "Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two (Adam and Abraham) the one on this side of the bank of the river (before or after the Flood), and the other on that side of the river (before or after the Flood)."

      6 "And one said to the man clothed in linen (Noah the "Preacher", the one who found grace in the eyes of the Lord), which was upon the waters of the river (the Flood, riding in the Ark), How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?"  How long before the earth is destroyed again --at the "end of days?"