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.ESSENE 

A first century and later religious group with certain defined beliefs and practices.

GNOSTIC

First century and later religious groups suppressed by the Christian church. 

Qumran Essene Scribes

 

The Essene-Gnostic Fellowship

Asheville, Fletcher, Hendersonville, N. Carolina

and the whole World Wide Web of the Internet!

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 ....The Christian "off-shoot" of the ESSENES has forced down the throats of the whole Roman Empire after Constantine arranged for a Paganized Version of ESSENISM that was agreed on by the bishops that met at Nicea in France and Constaninople in Turkey. ...Constantine himself decreed that these councils be held, and what was to be decided. ...The only one who voted his beliefs was Bishop Arias, who represented at that time the area where the Jews and Jesus and the Twelve Apostles actually lived. ...For refusing to be "politically correct" he was stripped of all authotity and banished to Africa. .....Constantine himself and many of his descendents did not believe what was decided to be the dogma of the new "Christian World."

THE TRINITY

As DEFINED by the COUNCIL OF NICEA and further expanded in the COUNCIL OF CONSTANDINOPLE is NOT one of the SUBJECTS we will debate in the ESSENE-GNOSTIC FELLOWSHIP because neither the ESSENES nor the GNOSTICS believed in or taught a TRINITY... We will, however, present the ANTI-TRINITY evidence found in the Bible itself.

TEN.. BIBLE ..TEXTS

THAT TEND TO DISPROVE

THE TRINITY!

I cannot here say emphatically they WILL disprove the TRINITY because as any DEBATER knows, the best of logic and ordinary rational thinking is not enough to convince everyone, and in the unique case of using the Bible as an "Authority" other texts, be they few or many, can usually be found that stretched and interpreted can seem to CONTRADICT whatever texts we use to "PROVE" our point! Obviously, Constantine's bishops used these other texts at the council of Nicea and Constantinople!

The Trinity Defined

       The Trinity Doctrine that began with the Catholic Church and spread to many other churches is the abolition of the number 2... The victim is asked to accept that 1 is 3 and 3 is 1.   The Catholic Encyclopedia, the Trinity section of which can be found on the Internet, defines the trinity as follows: The Trinity is the term employed to signify the central doctrine of the Christian religion--the truth that in the unity of the Godhead there are Three Persons, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, these three persons being truly distinct one from another. Thus, in the words of the Athanasian Creed:

       "The Father is God, The Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, and yet there are not three Gods but one God.”    In this Trinity of persons the Son is begotten of the Father by and an eternal generation, and  the Holy Spirit proceeds by an eternal progression from the Father and the Son..   Yet, not withstanding this difference as to origins, the Persons are co-eternal and co-equal: all alike are uncreated and omnipotent.   This, the church teaches, is the revelation regarding God's nature which Jesus Christ the Son of God, came upon earth to deliver to the world: and which she proposes to man as the foundation of her whole dogmatic system.

  Logical Analysis

      This is illogically defined and therefore not defined and therefore non existent.    For any reader trained in Pure Mathematics that is the end of the matter, there is no Trinity.     But for the sake of the less logically experienced among us, please read on. There are 3 inconsistencies in the definition:  

  1. That God is three independent beings who are one being, so that 3 is 1 and 1 is 3.
  2. Jesus is God and the father is God. So the Father is the Son.
  3. The Son is uncreated.  

1

It is not possible for three oranges to be one orange.

2

It is not possible for Father to be a Son, this contradicts the definitions of both father and son.  The son is defined as an offspring of a father not an ‘onspring’ as it were.

3

Sons are by definition created by their fathers, a son cannot be uncreated.

         “Basically the Trinity is defined as a number that is both less than two an more than two.   Obviously there is no such number.   The Trinity is like a hotel in North London which is situated South of the Thames.   Obviously there is no such hotel.   But when the poor uneducated, logically uninitiated, spiritually naïve, churchgoer complains, saying: How can this be?    He is told by his priest:   Aha! that is the mystery of God.   God can put a hotel which is in North London in a South London postal code.   God can make a number that is larger than 2 actually be less than 2. at which point the poor naïve church-goer gives up and says to himself,   .Wow!  I will never understand God, I had better leave the understanding of him to my priest.      I can never have a relationship with a God like that, whom I simply cannot understand.    I had better have a relationship with the priest instead.   This is of course precisely the effect that the priest wants.  Now he can continue to play God to his congregation.   So the churchgoer becomes an idolater of his priest rather than a worshiper of God.   It is not possible to have a relationship with a person who cannot be known..   So the churchgoer is prohibited by the trinity doctrine  from having a relationship with his God.”

  Brain-washed!

      “The Doctrine of the Trinity is useful to determine if someone is “brain-washed” to the extent that he or she will be of great usefulness to the Church.    If the victim is prepared to believe that one is three and that a father is his own son and that a son is uncreated, then he or she is prepared to believe anything at all and so he or she is fully brainwashed.    Once he is in this condition, his logic is removed, his objectivity has gone, he is mentally defenseless, so he and his family can be pumped for money, sex, status, worship, whatever the priest wants.”

      “So by making the trinity doctrine the central doctrine of the Roman Catholic faith, that church was auto selecting brainwashed people.   The control freak only wants brainwashed people.   He cannot permit free thinkers to enter the congregation, they might see through his little game and liberate his brainwashed victims.   It is a pleasure to be able to reveal the truth behind this despicable mind game that the Roman Catholic Church has relied on for 1700 years.”   (Quoted from www.biblecodeintro.com)

          I don’t expect that quoting texts from the Bible will dissuade the brainwashed  masses of Christians who have grown so used to thinking of Jesus Christ as almost 100% God and almost 0% human over 1700 years of doing so.   Any more than showing hundreds of Bible texts support Seventh-day Sabbath-keeping and that not a single unambiguous text supporting Sunday-keeping as a command of God or Jesus can be found has made much difference to the religious habits of the majority.    Be that as it may, I will feel better if I make an effort, like the above-cited website, against this  despicable mind game that the Roman Catholic Church” has been able to lead the world into with outstanding success.   A new generation has arrived, however.   A generation of young people that have computers, browse the Internet, and expect even religion to make some sort of sense.  

      The largest non-trinitarian church with a reputation for good scholarship and good ethics is the Unitarian-Universalist Church.   A lot of Jews attend this church if they can’t find a synagogue to their liking.   Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormons are also non-trinitarians, as are Freemasons and many smaller sects.    Deists like Thomas Jefferson and George Washington were also non-trinitarians

  10 Bible Texts that Disprove the “Trinity”

Text 1

     Matthew 12:32 “And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.”

So the Holy Spirit and the Son are not co-equal and are different beings.

Text 2

     Matthew 16:15 “He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?

16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.”

So God revealed it, not Jesus, so they are two different spirits.

Text 3

       Matthew 20:23 “And he said unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them (belongs to those—NIV) for whom it is prepared of my Father.’

So God and Jesus have separate possessions.

Text 4

      Mark 10:18 “And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is, God.”

So God is good and Jesus is not, so they are different people with different characters and different levels of righteousness,

Text 5

      Matthew 24:36 “But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.”

So God knows things that Jesus does not know.  So they have no ‘unity of Godhead’.

Text 6

       John 14:1 “Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe (trust—NIV, exercise faith) in God, believe (trust, exercise faith) also in me.”

  Two different beings to put your faith in.

Text 7

       John 14:28 “Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you.  If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

So the two of them are not co-equal then.

Text 8

      Luke 22:42 “Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.”

 So God and Jesus have two different wills.  So there is no ‘unity of Godhead’.

Text 9

      John 11:41 “Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me.

42 And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me (sent me forth--?)

 So God sent Jesus forth, and God himself remained entirely in heaven while Jesus was on the earth.

Text 10

      Matthew 6:9 “After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.”

Jesus himself was entirely on earth and God was entirely in heaven when he said this!  

HERE THE AUTHOR OF THIS LIST (NOT MYSELF BY THE WAY), HAS THROWN IN A FEW MORE FOR GOOD MEASURE!  IN CASE YOU QUESTION A FEW!

Text 11

       Matthew 27:46 “And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabach’thani? That is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?”

 One cannot easily forsake oneself, can one!  The Father was God of the son.  The son was not God of the father.  This was one of Sir Isaac Newton’s anti-trinity arguments.

As another argument, if it is true that Jesus and God are the same person, then Jesus talked to himself in public, and prayed to himself in private and so was in fact a schizophrenic.   This is plainly a false insult both to God and to his Son.

Text 12

      1 Timothy 6:16 Who only (the one) hath immortality [aqanastan], dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting.  Amen.’

 Literally aqanastan means ‘without death’.  So God has not died and will never die.  Whereas of course Jesus has died.   Therefore Jesus is not God – QED.

Text 13

      Hebrews 5:5 “So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he (God) said unto him (Jesus as a descendent of David eligible to be Christ), Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.

     6 As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

     7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;

     8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;

     9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all who obey him;

    10 Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.”

 One cannot be a priest of oneself.   Jesus must be a different person to God in order that he can be God’s priest.   Just as Melchizedek was a different person to God.   God became Jesus’ father again by saving him out of death, by resurrecting him.

Text 14

     1 Corinthians 15:23 “But every man in his own order (rank): Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming.

24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up (hands over) the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down (brought to nothing) all rule and all authority and power.”

How do you hand over something to yourself?

NOTE THAT THE UNKNOWN (TO ME) AUTHOR OR AUTHORS OF THIS LIST HAVE NOT BOTHERED TO QUOTE EVEN ONE OLD TESTAMENT TEXT -- THE REASON BEING OBVIOUS.   FINDING EVERY TEXT IN THE OLD TESTAMENT AGAINST "THE TRINITY" WOULD MAKE THIS LIST SO LONG NO-ONE WOULD BOTHER TO READ IT!  YET SOME PROTESTANTS (INCLUDING 50% OF BAPTISTS) WILL CLAIM THE INFALLIBILITY OF THE OLD TESTAMENT AS WELL AS THE NEW!

 

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