A first century and later religious group with certain defined beliefs and practices.
First century and later religious groups suppressed by the Christian church.
....The Christian "off-shoot" of the ESSENES has forced down the throats of the whole Roman Empire after Constantine arranged for a Paganized Version of ESSENISM that was agreed on by the bishops that met at Nicea in France and Constaninople in Turkey. ...Constantine himself decreed that these councils be held, and what was to be decided. ...The only one who voted his beliefs was Bishop Arias, who represented at that time the area where the Jews and Jesus and the Twelve Apostles actually lived. ...For refusing to be "politically correct" he was stripped of all authotity and banished to Africa. .....Constantine himself and many of his descendents did not believe what was decided to be the dogma of the new "Christian World."
As DEFINED by the COUNCIL OF NICEA and further expanded in the COUNCIL OF CONSTANDINOPLE is NOT one of the SUBJECTS we will debate in the ESSENE-GNOSTIC FELLOWSHIP because neither the ESSENES nor the GNOSTICS believed in or taught a TRINITY... We will, however, present the ANTI-TRINITY evidence found in the Bible itself.
is not possible for three oranges to be one orange.
is not possible for Father to be a Son, this contradicts the definitions
of both father and son. The son is defined as an offspring of a father not
an onspring as it were.
are by definition created by their fathers, a son cannot be uncreated.
Basically the Trinity is defined as a number that is both less
than two an more than two. Obviously there is no such number.
The Trinity is like a hotel in North London which is situated South
of the Thames. Obviously
there is no such hotel. But
when the poor uneducated, logically uninitiated, spiritually naïve,
churchgoer complains, saying: How can this be?
He is told by his priest: Aha! that is
the mystery of God. God can put a hotel which is in North London in a South
London postal code. God can make a number that is larger than
2 actually be less than 2. at which point the poor naïve church-goer
gives up and says to himself, .Wow!
I will never understand God, I had better leave the understanding
of him to my priest.
I can never have a relationship with a God like that, whom I simply
cannot understand. I had better have a relationship with
the priest instead. This
is of course precisely the effect that the priest wants.
Now he can continue to play God to his congregation.
So the churchgoer becomes an idolater of his priest rather than a
worshiper of God. It
is not possible to have a relationship with a person who cannot be known..
So the churchgoer is prohibited by the trinity doctrine from
having a relationship with his God.
Doctrine of the Trinity
is useful to determine if someone is brain-washed to the extent that he or she will
be of great usefulness to the Church.
If the victim is prepared to believe that
one is three and that
a father is
his own son and that
a son is uncreated, then he or she is prepared to believe
anything at all and so he or she is fully brainwashed.
Once he is in this condition, his logic is removed, his objectivity
has gone, he is mentally defenseless, so he and his family can be pumped
for money, sex, status, worship, whatever the priest wants.
So by making the trinity doctrine
the central doctrine of the Roman Catholic faith, that church was auto selecting
brainwashed people. The
control freak only wants brainwashed people.
He cannot permit free thinkers to enter the congregation, they might
see through his little game and liberate his brainwashed victims. It is a pleasure to be able to reveal the truth
behind this despicable mind game that the Roman Catholic Church has relied
on for 1700 years. (Quoted
The largest non-trinitarian church with a reputation for good scholarship
and good ethics is the Unitarian-Universalist Church.
A lot of Jews attend this church if they cant find a
synagogue to their liking. Jehovahs
Witnesses and Mormons are also non-trinitarians, as are Freemasons
and many smaller sects.
Deists like Thomas Jefferson and George Washington were also
10 Bible Texts that Disprove the Trinity
Matthew 12:32 And
whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh
against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in
the world to come.
So the Holy Spirit
and the Son are not co-equal and are different beings.
Matthew 16:15 He
saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the
And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona:
for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my
is in heaven.
So God revealed
it, not Jesus, so they are two different spirits.
Matthew 20:23 And he said unto them, Ye shall
drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized
with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine
to give, but it shall be given to them (belongs to thoseNIV) for whom
it is prepared of my Father.
So God and Jesus
have separate possessions.
Mark 10:18 And
Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is, God.
So God is good
and Jesus is not, so they are different people with different characters
and different levels of righteousness,
Matthew 24:36 But
of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my
So God knows things
that Jesus does not know. So
they have no unity of Godhead.
John 14:1 Let
not your heart be troubled: ye believe (trustNIV, exercise faith)
believe (trust, exercise faith) also in me.
John 14:28 Ye
have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you.
If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father:
for my Father is greater than I.
So the two of
them are not co-equal then.
Luke 22:42 Saying,
Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my
will, but thine,
God and Jesus have two different wills.
So there is no unity of Godhead.
John 11:41 Then
they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus
lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard
And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which
stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me (sent me
God sent Jesus forth, and God himself remained entirely in heaven while
Jesus was on the earth.
Matthew 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our
Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
was entirely on earth and God was entirely in heaven when he said this!
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Matthew 27:46 And
about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama
sabachthani? That is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken
cannot easily forsake oneself, can one!
The Father was God of the son.
The son was not God of the father.
This was one of Sir Isaac Newtons anti-trinity arguments.
As another argument,
if it is true that Jesus and God are the same person, then Jesus talked
to himself in public, and prayed to himself in private and so was in fact
a schizophrenic. This
is plainly a false insult both to God and to his Son.
1 Timothy 6:16 Who
only (the one) hath immortality [aqanastan], dwelling in the light which no man
can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour
and power everlasting. Amen.
means without death. So
God has not died and will never die.
Whereas of course Jesus has died.
Therefore Jesus is not God QED.
Hebrews 5:5 So
also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he (God)
said unto him (Jesus as a descendent of David eligible to be Christ), Thou
art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.
As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the
order of Melchisedec.
7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered
up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that
was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;
Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he
And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto
all who obey him;
Called of God an high priest
after the order of Melchisedec.
cannot be a priest of oneself.
Jesus must be a different person to God in order that he can be Gods
priest. Just as Melchizedek was a different person to God.
God became Jesus father again by saving him out of death, by
1 Corinthians 15:23 But
every man in his own order (rank): Christ the firstfruits; afterward they
that are Christs at his coming.
Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up (hands over) the
kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down (brought to
nothing) all rule and all authority and power.
How do you hand
over something to yourself?
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o8th century Greek picture of the 4th century "Council of Nicaea" --
WHERE THE "TRINITY" WAS INVENTED
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