Genesis 12:10 "And there was a famine in the land: and Abram went down
into Egypt to sojourn there; for the famine was grievous in the land."
there is now, and was back in 1988 and 1989, when I first started hearing
about Ron Wyatt and all his startling and unusual discoveries, a famine
for those of us who for various reasons, mostly habit and a desire to
gain heaven and escape hell fire, felt compelled to accept our dose of
Bible Stories without complaining too loudly -- a famine for
something different, and perhaps BETTER!
"And it came to pass, when he was come near to enter into Egypt, that he
said unto Sarai his wife, behold now, I know that thou art a fair woman to
Both Ron Wyatt
and I, once we had met each other, discovered we had something in common
in regards to women. Both of us had had pretty wives who had
divorced us. In both cases to get together with other men we
considered to be quite inferior to us. In a word, we didn't have a
clue as to why we had become divorced. Ron had found another
wife who suited him fine. Mary Nell Wyatt. Who has, now that
Ron has died, inherited his "Kingdom".
13 "Say, I pray thee, thou art my sister: that it may be well with me for
thy sake; and my soul shall live because of thee."
15 "And the princes also of Pharaoh saw her, and commended her before
Pharaoh; and the woman was taken into Pharaoh's house."
Mary Nell Wyatt
is responsible for the excellent write-up of
as the Biblical
which I have used elsewhere on
this web site, making such comparisons between Joseph
and Dr. Ben
Carson as I
have found to be convenient. But I need to get on to Ron Wyatt's and
my own joint trip to Jerusalem in October 1989, during which time, among
other things, I held his video camera for him on one occasion while he
filmed the following wall of ash-like material and gave a little lecture
SODOM and GOMORRAH.
Ron Wyatt was completely in agreement with the rest of the Christian
religious community (those who are not Gay nor Lesbian) about where the
remains of Sodom and Gomorrah can be found, and why God destroyed these
cities by raining down on them actual literal "balls of burning
was important to Ron, and he had found some of these sulfur balls!
At the Damascus Gate!
Ron Wyatt was a very secretive person who had run into unforeseen
difficulties many times before on previous trips such as these, so he
wouldn't tell me for certain that he would actually meet me on the
specified date at the Jerusalem Hotel near the Damascus Gate. So I
had the taxi from Tel Aviv drop me off there, and found out that Randy
Osborne was there also and Ron would show up later.
I discovered while making this page that this hotel still has some
pictures on the Internet -- and here's the view going upstairs from
the lobby -- as I first saw it when I arrived in October of 1989, 26
years ago! It's like time-traveling into
the past for me to just look at these pictures once again! Ron had
booked his usual room ahead of time, and I found a small inexpensive
room on the second floor and unpacked my bags.
The hotel had a small
outdoor area with some greenery, but was a very small hotel run by a
Christian Palestinian family who knew Ron very well because he stayed
here every time he visited Jerusalem. He'd been coming here for
5 years or more. And Randy Osborn, who was here already, had been
with him and worked with him before.
We spent a lot of our time on this trip excavating at Ron Wyatt's site
near the Garden Tomb where he claims he once saw close up a stone box
containing the golden ark of the covenant.
This is only a relatively few feet from the hill with large holes in it
that the British General Gordon thought was "Golgotha" after reading John
It was at this excavation site
near the Garden Tomb that Ron and I had our experience with the "Man in
White" that I've reported rather fully on another page.
And below is a picture of the Western "Wailing" Wall that everybody visits
who comes to Jerusalem, and near which, in December of 1997 I had another
interesting experience with an unusual person who predicted my future for
all of 1998 and beyond in an unusual way, by cartoons drawn into a
portrait this person made of me.
Abraham's Wandering Visitors
To those of us who read the
Bible and believe its stories to be true in some way or another, such as
Ron Wyatt and I, we can believe that Abraham did have unusual visitors
near Hebron, not very far from Jerusalem, as Ron and I had our visitor at
his excavation site in October, 1989 and I had many such encounters in
1990, 1993, 1994 and 1997.
Abraham and the 3
angels (Elohim) who came calling on him at his tent near Hebron
Genesis 18:1 "And the Lord appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre:
and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;--"
"And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and
when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed
himself towaed the ground."
"And said, My Lord, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not
away, I pray thee, from thy servant:--"
"Let a little water, I pray you, be fetched, and wash your feet, and rest
yourselves under the tree:---"
(Later, when the men
(who were angels) had dined)
the men rose up from thence, and looked toward Sodom: and Abraham went
with them to bring them on the way."
"And the men turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom: but
Abraham stood yet before the Lord."
Genesis 18:16 "And the men rose up from
thence, and looked toward Sodom: and Abraham went with them to bring them
on the way."
17 "And the Lord
said, Shall I hide from Abraham that thing which I do;--"
18 "Seeing that
Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations
of the earth shall be blessed in him?"
19 "For I know
him, that he will command his children and his household after him, and
they shall keep the way of the Lord, to do justice and judgment, that the
Lord may bring upon Abraham that which he hath spoken of him."
20 "And the Lord
said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their
sin is very grievous;
21 "I will go down
now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it,
which is come unto me; and if not, I will know."
22 "And the men
turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham stood
yet before the Lord."
Abraham drew near, and said, Will thou also destroy the righteous with the
there be fifty righteous within the city: wilt thou also destroy and not
spare the place for the fifty righteous that are therein?"
25 "That be
far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the
wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from
thee: shall not the judge of all the earth do right?"
26 "And the Lord
said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will
spare all the place for their sakes.
27 "And Abraham
answered and said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the
Lord, which am but dust and ashes."
there shall lack five of the fifty righteous: wilt thou destroy all the
city for lack of five?"
29 "And he spoke
unto him yet again, and said, Peradventure there shall be forty found
there. And he said, I will not do it for forty's sake."
30 "And he
said unto him, O let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak: Peradventure
there shall be thirty be found there. And he said, I will not do it,
if I find thirty there."
31 "And he
said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the Lord:
Peradventure there shall twenty found there. And he said, I will not
destroy it for twenty's sake."
32 "And he
said, O let not the Lord be angry, and I will speak yet but this once:
Peradventure ten shall be found there: And he said, I will not destroy it
for ten's sake."
33 "And the
Lord went his way, as soon as he had left communing with Abraham: and
Abraham returned unto his place."
Later, in the Doomed City of Sodom
Genesis 19:1 "And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat
of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose
up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground; --"
2 "And he
said, Behold now, my lords, turn in, I pray you, into your servant's
and tarry all night, and wash your feet, and ye shall rise up early, and
go on your ways. And they said, Nay, but we will abide
in the street all night."
|| Here we are continuing
the story of Lot, sometimes called Abram's nephew but at least once
(Genesis 14:14) called his brother. Both of them have
large herds of cattle so Lot is given a choice of where to live.
He chooses the Sodom Area (Genesis 13:12). By this text
he is living in a house not a tent,
and is sitting in the gate of the
city. I couldn't find a picture of Lot sitting in the gate of the
city so instead settled for this one offering the visitors his
house. FIRST QUESTION:
Why would a "righteous Lot" be sitting at the GATE (most public
place) of a city full of HOMOSEXUALS?
3 "And he pressed
upon them greatly; and they turned in unto them, and entered into his
house; and he made them a feast, and did bake unleavened bread, and they
of Sodom's Real Problem
Ezekiel 16:49 "Behold, this was the
iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance
of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she
strengthen the hand of the poor and needy."
50 "And they
were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took
them away as I saw good."
LOT as a ROLE-PLAYER!
I am not looking at these Genesis chapter 19 verses from the same
perspective as the initial author of these verses, whoever and
whenever that may have been (but most likely not "Moses" on top
of Mount Sinai 40 days and 40 nights with some rocks or papyrus to
write on and a chisel or quill pen to write with) -- nor from the same
perspective that another redactor, another editor,
put into them later. But looking at them using the
perspective of Ezekiel, which is
indeed available to us as found in Ezekiel 16:49, 50 -- Lot,
supposedly the model righteous person that God has sent "the Lord" to
argue with Abraham about saving, and two angels to actually save, is
role-playing the average well-to-do
citizen of Sodom!
Yes, he has first shown
up at the gate of the city being hospitable. But once he has
talked the two strangers into being his overnight guests, he's
treating them as any well-to-do Sodom citizen would do. And Lot
was very well-to-do. As we know from Genesis 13:5,6. And
in the war between the 4 kings of Mesopotemia and the 5 kings of the
Sodom area, Lot and his family are the only hostages worth mentioning.
So here's a very rich and important man entertaining two
strangers of unknown importance and interesting news value.
And LOT throws them a
Now I'm not seeing Sodom as being a very large city --
and I'm assuming that small town rules apply. Mainly that
everyone who lived there soon know what was going on. They
walked by, smelled the food, heard the talk and laughter, heard Lot's
daughters singing for the guests, and felt left out. And
did the only predictable thing everyone would do in such a situation.
4 "But before they lay down, the men of the
city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and
young, all the people from every quarter:--
5 "And they called unto
Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in unto thee this
night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them."
|| Here's where some
author, perhaps the original author, perhaps a later editor (I vote
for the Essenes, perhaps 20 centuries later) -- start to give the
conversation and the story a deviant sexual slant.
But in Ezekiel's Time, it may have
instead been a problem of hungry, bored street people, who
wanted something to eat and to be included in the entertainment.
As Ezekiel put it--
"--neither did she (Sodom) strengthen the
hand of the poor and needy." "Rich" Lot is excluding
them in the same way as his rich neighbors have always excluded them!
6 "And Lot went out at
the door unto them, and shut the door after him,
7 "And said, I pray you,
brethren, do not so wickedly."
8 "Behold now, I have
two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out
to you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do
nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof."
| Using my supposition,
supported somewhat by Ezekiel, Lot may have been only offering these
excluded street people the entertainment his daughters had
given the guests -- perhaps some singing and dancing. But
the sexually perverted minds of some readers are invited by a
later editor (perhaps Essene, hung up on the importance of celibacy)
to imagine an all-night SEXUAL ORGY!
9 "And they said, Stand back.
And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs
be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And
they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the
10 "But the men put
forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut the
11 "And they smote
the men that were at the door with blindness, both small and great: so
that they wearied themselves to blind the door."
12 "And the men
said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in law, and thy sons,
and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of
13 "For we will
destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face
of the Lord; and the Lord hath sent us to destroy it."
14 "And Lot went
out, and spoke unto his sons in law, which married his daughters, and
said, Up, get you out of this place; for the Lord will destroy this city.
But he seemed as one who mocked unto his sons in law."
Here are the forgotten people of this
story, the other daughters of Lot and their husbands and children.
The ordinary people of every village and city. The ones who
don't make it into the NEWS headlines.
We don't remember from
our Sunday School lessons that Lot had any more members in his family
but two virgin daughters and a wife that turned to salt because she
looked back when an angel told her not to do that.
other daughters because Genesis 19:12 and 14 say he did. If Lot
had sons in law he had other daughters.
sons in law gay? Obviously, No.
other daughters Lesbians? No more so than the 2 daughters that
escaped with him, and lived in a cave with him.
daughters who got him drunk one after the other, had sex with him two
nights in a row, got pregnant on the first try, and perpetuated the
family. Otherwise the family might have ended, because they
assumed all the other men on earth available to them were now dead.
With a bad
hangover for a few days, and 2 daughters who had morning sickness and
no more menstrual periods, Lot probably caught on by 6 months later
what had happened, but the situation being what it was, what to do but
continue roughing it out in the cave and making it into the monastery
that it became later.
15 "And when the
morning arose, then the angels hastened Lot, saying, Arise, take thy wife,
and thy two daughters, which are here; lest thou be consumed in the
iniquity of the city."
16 "And while he
lingered, the men laid hold upon his hand, and upon the hand of his wife,
and upon the hand of his two daughters; the Lord being merciful unto him:
and they brought him forth, and set him without the city."
17 "And it came to
pass, when they had brought them forth abroad, that he said, Escape for
thy life; look not behind thee, neither stay thou in all the plain, escape
to the mountain, lest thou be consumed.."
18 "And Lot said
unto them, Oh, not so, my Lord; ---"
19 "Behold now,
thy servant hath found grace in thy sight, and thou hast magnified thy
mercy, which thou hast shewed unto me in saving my life; and I cannot
escape to the mountain, lest some evil take me, and I die:--"
20 "Behold now,
this city is near to flee unto, and it is a little one: Oh, let me escape
thither, (is it not a little one?) and my soul shall live."
21 ":And he said
unto him, See, I have accepted thee concerning this thing also, that I
will not overthrow this city, for the which thou has spoken."
22 "Hast thee,
escape thither; for I cannot do any thing till thou be come thither.
Therefore the name of the city was called Zoar."
23 "The sun was
risen upon the earth when Lot entered into Zoar."
Steven Collins responds to a
letter by Bill Schlegel
Responding to the article “Where
Is Sodom?” in the March/April 2013
issue of BAR,
"So, what’s actually represented on the
Madaba Map? It’s an absolute fact that the Madaba Map features
only the deep north basin of the Dead Sea. This is detailed quite nicely
in Neev and Emery’s geological work The Destruction of Sodom, Gomorrah
and numerous other geological resources. Based on numerous data-sets
dealing with ancient Dead Sea levels, it’s clear that during the Roman and
Byzantine Period the level of the Dead Sea was even lower than today—about
-440m. As Neev and Emery point out, at the time when the Madaba Map was
made there was no shallow south basin, thus no Lisan Peninsula.
Zoar was then a deep-water port on the Bay of Mazra’a at the south end of
the north basin. Also, there was a Roman road going east/west over the
Lisan (not possible when the south basin is filled). Today, at the present
historic low-level, you can easily see Roman and Byzantine ruins along the
eastern shoreline of the Dead Sea, right next to the water!
Mr. Schlegel’s suggestion that “Perhaps exactly
the opposite is true—the Madaba Map depicts no Lisan because of high water
levels” is made in abject ignorance of the facts. As Neev and Emery state:
“As Zoar of the first century A.D. was a seaport, it had to be on the
shore and must have been north of [the paved Roman road traversing the
Lisan] or near the head of the Bay of Mazra’a [at the south end of the
north basin]. The absence of any geographic indication for the [Lisan]
peninsula’s existence on the Madaba Map leads to a similar conclusion.
Such an outstanding and picturesque tongue-like shore would not have been
overlooked by the artist-cartographer of that map.” They further state
that “Postures of two cargo vessels portrayed on the Madaba Map imply that
the main traffic was between Zoar, port at the southeast corner of the
north basin, and the north coast as close as possible to Jericho, the gate
to Judea. The Bay of Mazra’a was always the main, if not the only, natural
deepwater haven … If Zoar were at Es-Safi, it never could have functioned
as an efficient harbor.”
24 "Then the Lord
rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out
25 "And he
overthrew those cities, and all the plain, and all the inhabitants of
the cities, and that which grew upon the ground."
26 "But his wife
looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt."
27 "And Abraham gat up
early in the morning to the place where he stood before the lord:---"
28 "And he looked
toward Sodom and Gomorrah, and toward all all the land of the plain, and
beheld, and, lo, the smoke of the country went up as the smoke of a
Because of the perceived sexual deviant bias probably added later to
this story, Westboro Baptist Church and others like them have waged a
religious Jihad against homosexuals and Lesbians (and later bisexuals
and trans-genders) until modern times in which some degree of
toleration for such things has been achieved -- even same-sex
marriage. The Essenes may be to blame for this.
This picture, painted by me after I
first visited the ruins of the Qumran monastery in Nov. - Dec. of 1992
with any real knowledge of what went on there and what was taught
there is of Jesus Christ riding a donkey on coats spread out to
welcome him as the new Essene Messiah between 29 AD and 33 AD. Among
other things they did, the Essenes copied (and edited) scrolls and
books for the Jews of their generation.
I was helping Ron Wyatt in 1989 I had not yet learned about the Essenes
and their extreme bias towards no sexual activity of any type, and I
helped him label everything in the Dead Sea area as potentially "Sodom and
Gomorrah" or related to God's raining burning balls of sulphur on people
and cities, particularly in the Masada area.
It was not until 1993 that I really took a good look at the Marl cliffs
and eroded Marl banks that he was labeling as destroyed cities.
These are no more destroyed cities than what you see in the Grand Canyon
or in the Black Hills of South Dakota are "destroyed cities". Water
and wind erosion can make any kind of shape you can imagine!
was on a trip I took to Masada in 1993 that I took the time to instead
of directly taking the bus to the entry way to the Masada tramway or
elevator instead walk down a side road partly up the hill.
There it was, laid out
before me, all of Ron Wyatt's fake city of Sodom, that he had been
"selling" to his religious fans all those years!
Once you get a ways away from these formations, and look down on them from
slightly over head, it becomes more obvious that this is an illusion.
Ron Wyatt later on began labeling some of his "Sodom and Gomorrah"
pictures as being taken near Masada, but this doesn't mean much to those
who have not, like myself, been there and done that!
The sulphur balls
are real, they did rain down from the sky in this area, and Ron Wyatt was
not very far away from where someone else, with better research and not
just relying on hunches and good luck did find at least two of the cities
that were destroyed by fire and brimstone. But not for
homosexuality. For living over an earthquake fault and very
flammable petroleum products in great quantity!
The "Bible and Spade"
Summer 1999 (Vol 12, No. 3) from the Associates for Biblical Research
announces "The Discovery of the Sin Cities of Sodom and Gomorrah". The
name of these two cities have long been by-words in our language for
wickedness. And many scholars and archaeologists have long searched for
the truth about these cities.
and his two daughters."
Genesis 19:30 (KJV)
"And Lot lifted up his eyes, and beheld all the plain of Jordan, that
it was well watered every where, before the Lord destroyed Sodom and
Gomorrah, even as the garden of the Lord, like the land of Egypt, as
thou comest unto Zoar." Genesis 13:10 (KJV)
"And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two
daughters with him: for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a
"And there went out the king of Sodom, and the king of Gomorrah, and
the king of Admah, and the king of Zeboiim, and the king of Bela (the
same is Zoar;) and they joined battle with them in the vale of Siddim;"
Genesis 14:10 (KJV)
The first most important source for locating Sodom and Gomorrah is the
location of Zoar (
see more) and Lot's
cave and is from the mosaic map on the floor of a church in Madaba,
Jordan, known as the Madaba map and as shown on the left here.
Fig 2 below shows the excavation site of the
known traditional location of the "Sanctuary of Lot" in the hills above
the indicated site for Zoar.
One popular theory for a long time was that
the Sodom and Gomorrah were located in the plain south of the Dead Sea and
later covered by the waters as the Dead sea water level has changed over
time. The level of the waters has receded in recent years and search of
the area has located no evidence to verify this location. Searches
starting in 1973 began to discover evidences of occupied cities in the
area southeast of the Dead Sea, most of them located so as to obtain the
benefit of water flow from the many Wadi's of the area. The map of the
proposed locations is shown in Fig 3 below.
To date there has been located only evidence for two of the five Cities
of the Plain, but they are proposing that the evidence is strong that the
two most important cities of Sodom and Gomorrah have been found. That
being the evidences found of destruction by fire at each site due to the
layers of ash found in the digs by archaeologists. Bab edh-Dhra ( Sodom )
is the largest of the two sites, the 7 meter wide (23 feet) city wall
enclosed 9-10 acres with gates located at the west and the northeast. The
northeast gate had two flanking towers with massive stone and timber
foundations, possibly the gate in which Lot sat (Genesis 19:1). Estimated
population at the time of the destruction was between 600-1200. There was
a large cemetery at Bab edh-Dhra ( Sodom ) and pottery evidence indicates
that some of the residents of Numeira ( Gomorrah ) buried their dead in
this cemetery. It appears that Numeria was in existence for only a short
time, possibly less than 100 years. Paleobotany investigations indicated
that a rich diversity of crops were grown
in the area including barley, wheat, grapes, figs, lintels, flax,
chickpeas, peas, broad beans, dates,
and olives; an indicator that the area
was "well watered" per Genesis 13:10.
Concerning the proposed cause of the destruction of the plain where
Sodom and Gomorrah were, they are proposing that it was the result of an
earthquake that forced combustible material to the surface and into the
atmosphere. Surveys have located bitumen, petroleum, natural gas and
sulfur in the area. And to the east of the Dead Sea is a major fault line
and these cities are located exactly on this fault line. See Fig 4 below.
The Scriptures say that Abraham looked and
saw "the smoke of the country went up as the smoke of a furnace" and does
not seem to mention a quaking, but does use the Hebrew term for
"overturning" in Deuteronomy 29:23. Possibly this is an indication that
the earthquake proposal is valid. Changes of elevation of up to 164 feet
have been noted which caused a change in direction of the Wadi Numeria at
the site, which is believed to be the event that caused the destruction.
Also found were evidences that the residents hastily fled the site and
buried skeletons of those who were caught in the destruction.
( The above three figures are from
B&S Vol 20 No. 3 Summer 2007, p78-84 )
Conclusion: The author proposes that "... it is clear that the
infamous cities of Sodom and Gomorrah have now been found." You may visit
their web site at http://www.ChristianAnswers.net/ abr/ abrhome.html
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